Betty Dodson with Carlin Ross
Better Orgasms. Better World.
What do American men have in common with Middle Eastern and Tribal African men? All three societies routinely perform circumcision on boys while the rest of the world does not. In the United States, we circumcise babies within the first few days or week. Muslims do it to young boys who are between 12 and 15 while African boys are between 6 to 10 years of age. In all three instances circumcision is performed without anesthesia!
Perhaps Muslims circumcise boys late to insure they will become angry young men willing to sacrifice their life for Allah. In Africa it's a rite of passage into manhood, a warrior who now can kill animals and other men. The fact that the AMA does not support circumcision citing there is no health benefit, I suspect it's the same for Americans: circumcision prepares our young men to go to war. After all, War Inc. has been America's number one industry ever since 1914 following WWI.
The Jews maintain the tradition of circumcision because some second century rabbis thought it was a good idea; a perfect example of religious ignorance. But why do Protestants, Catholics or Atheists do it? The most common reason mothers give is, "I want my son to look like his father." Or, "I don't want him to look different from other boys in the locker room." So this barbaric, horrific procedure continues without rhyme or reason other than those few who have the courage to say "No" and dare to be different. That was my mother, Bess Dodson. She refused to circumcise her baby boys and she had four sons. Daddy was not circumcised, but Mother later told me that even if he had been, she still would never let them do that to her babies. It made no sense because she believed they were fine just like Nature intended. That was Mother! She always relied upon "plain old horse sense," as she called it.
Over the decades of listening to a multitude of people's sex problems, I've often been asked for my opinion on circumcision. Consistently I have been against it for many reasons mainly because I believed it was meant to curb male masturbation. Like Mother, I too believe our bodies are perfectly designed by Nature. However, I never made a big issue out of my stand against circumcision in deference to all the men who'd been cut. Thanks to an active sex life during the two liberated decades of the sixties and seventies, I knew more American men were cut than not, so why make a big issue of it? However, I did comment regularly that circumcision was a barbaric procedure that was an attack on the male sex organ in the name of cleanliness or holiness. I would never recommend or support it.
In the early eighties, I spent several weeks in Amsterdam running workshops. At one point, I remember thinking how sweet and gentle most Dutch men were. More like my brothers and the boys I'd dated back in High School in Wichita. Looking back I wondered how many of them had been circumcised. European countries do not perform circumcision routinely like we do here in America. When I moved to New York in the fifties, most of my lovers were Jewish and they were all circumcised. My former husband was circumcised and he ended up with a small hole about three inches above the cut line where a bit of skin got snipped off by accident. He had to remove the dried mucous from it regularly like squeezing a pimple. He was also a premature ejaculator who claimed he rarely masturbated as a child and never as an adult.
Also during the eighties, more truth about circumcision emerged and many gay men begin to rebel against this form of genital mutilation. Some of the guys were restoring their foreskins by stretching the remaining skin. About the same time, feminists were raging against Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) in Muslim and African countries. Instinctively I would ask, "What about Male Genital Mutilation with circumcision?" Women were adamant about it not being the same thing. Men could still ejaculate with their cut dicks which fulfilled the role of procreation.
I didn't make the connection on how circumcision changed the act of intercourse until my recent correspondence with Dr. Rob, an American studying in Moscow. He rekindled my interest in the subject when he sent a video clip of a baby having the procedure done. I'm still reeling from the images. It's one thing to imagine what this is like. It's altogether different to actually see it performed. Truth is I'm a tough old broad, but I broke down and cried like a sissy girl. Any person who watches this video would never, ever allow their baby boy to be circumcised. There are no words to describe the horror I witnessed with my own eyes.
The method practiced in most hospitals today use a Gomco or Mogen clamp that slowly crushes the skin and seals the vessels resulting in an almost bloodless procedure. However, the baby experiences severe pain for up to twenty minutes as the clamp slowly mashes sensitive nerve endings. The foreskin is similar to a girl's clitoris; both are heavily endowed with thousands of nerve endings. I saw a happy little baby boy laid down inside a cold plastic mold imitating an infant's shape. Then his little legs are straightened out and strapped down along with his arms whereupon Baby naturally begins to cry. Unbelievably, the father is standing by. He asks the doctor if he can give his son a pacifier to suck.
While Baby is temporarily calmed, the doctor swabs the area with a soft applicator covered with antiseptic. It obviously feels good because Baby's penis becomes partially erect. Then the pain and screams come as his sweet little penis is put into the Gomco. The doc pulls the foreskin out with a cold metal clamp and thrusts a probe inside the foreskin and circles the shaft to separate the skin from the penis. The cries are now horrendous as Baby struggles against his bondage. Just try to imagine your clitoral hood being stretched out and then a sharp instrument inserted to separate the hood from the clitoral glans. The father mentions at one point that his baby is really upset. The doc assures him he's fine and he won't remember any of it.
I believe heterosexuality is at war with itself because of circumcision. First Baby feels pleasurable sensations that are abruptly followed by a barbaric torturous treatment that reduces his penis to a bloody stump! Is it any wonder why these men hate women or they don't trust anyone? Research has shown that the pain of circumcision is present in personal memories. When I Googled "against circumcision" some 300,000 sources appeared beginning with Mothers against Circumcision, Catholics, Protestants, Doctors and even Rabbi's who don't support it. Any nurse who has witnessed one is absolutely against it after seeing a baby suffer first hand. At least the Jewish-style circumcision uses a finely honed blade of surgical steel. In Africa it's a bit of glass or an old razor blade. My friend Rob in Moscow said he was haunted by the memory of the white searing pain until he was eight years old. He is now restoring his foreskin by stretching what's left. While other men are doing this, all those thousands of nerve endings have been lost for good.
In the sixties I was dating a man who was not circumcised. Grant practically worshipped women's genitals and loved all forms of sex. When we decided to date other people, the first thing I discovered was how difficult it was for me to have an orgasm with casual sex (research has shown that women are more likely to orgasm with a genitally intact partner). Meanwhile I figured he was coming all over the place. My conclusion at the time was while he could "run the fuck" I was limited to each man's technique. During that time, I was reading Wilhelm Reich who talked about the angry man who penetrated a woman's vagina using his penis like a weapon. I eventually named this the "Hard Fuck" where a guy would bang away. The first man I came with outside my primary relationship was uncircumcised. Unfortunately none of this registered at the time. I've only recently made the connection between the hard fuck and circumcision where a man struggles to get adequate stimulation during intercourse.
Later on when Grant I entered the sexual revolution and attended sex parties together, I quickly learned never to end up on my back and let a stranger fuck me. I always got on top so I could control the depth of penetration. I'd also stimulate my clitoris at the same time and I always added additional lubrication. Now that I understand how circumcision plays out in men's lives, my ride ‘em Cowgirl stance made sense. Circumcised men have lost so much sensation in the head of their penis that they masturbate with a heavy hand and fast rhythm which naturally translates into a hard and fast friction fuck!
Better than my Ph.D in sexology was having lots of sexual experiences with many different people. After I viewed the video sent by Dr. Rob in Moscow, I saw the difference in sexual penetration and thrusting of the natural man versus a circumcised man. As a result of this, I thought back over some of my boyfriends. My Spanish Doctor was not circumcised and I always came with him from intercourse in my twenties. Victor was a circumcised Jew with a nice fat dick and I could come with him if I got on top. Then I remembered Ira whose edge of his glans looked like a serrated kitchen knife. When I asked about his butchered penis, he said it was from a bad circumcision. Although I was crazy about him, my insides were sore after our first hard fuck so on the third date, I told him we were sexually incompatible and stopped seeing him.
Mother said she always came from intercourse with my uncircumcised father. She often commented on what good control he had and said they were a perfect fit. One site showed the difference between a natural foreskin that bunched up and pressed against a woman's clitoris during penetration; nerve bundles gently kissing other nerve bundles with a smooth gliding motion. It was Mother Nature's clitoral stimulator. Uncircumcised glans are moist and they look like satin while exposed glans have a different rougher texture that's always dry.
I'm amazed it's taken me all this time to understand heterosexual intercourse with and without a foreskin. My sexlife with Eric Amaranth, who is circumcised, was good in part because I requested a slow fuck with lots of extra lubrication. I'm proud of his capacity for care as well as passion during sex. I also realize why my life's work has been centered on liberating masturbation. It's one sure way that women can have orgasms. Given the physical and psychological damage done to American men with this unholy procedure, I'd say vibrators have saved the day for us gals. Once circumcision is ended for good, it will be a big step toward ending the war between the sexes, healing erectile dysfunction (ED) along with ending premature ejaculation. It will also create a healing for all the pre-orgasmic women that rarely or never can orgasm from those hard friction fucks.
It's no wonder men hate women consciously or subconsciously. Look at what mothers have allowed a doctor to do to them. First Baby feels pleasure with soft touches that get him partially erect. It feels good until the Doc applies a cold hard metal clamp. The searing pain that follows lasts twenty minutes or more like a sustained torture. May I suggest we consider the similarities between American men and their Islamic brothers or a primitive African tribe? The one thing they have in common is their puritanical and ignorant approach to male sexuality. We must end the barbaric practice of circumcision now! It's up to Mothers to take a stand and protect their baby boys. He can look different from Daddy and eventually know the truth: daddy was a victim of male genital mutilation (MGM) which is no longer practiced in a sexually enlightened society.
circ = body modification
I got a chuckle the other day when I checking out a dating site...it said
Tattoos-none
Piercing’s- none
Body mod's-Circumcision
He is right!
for the beauty of it
Circumcision makes one's dick look better. How hard is that to understand. It has such an aesthetic balance. Men who are against circumcision have bigger problems than the worry over foreskin. I have noticed in porn some women are choosing circumcision on their labia where there is excess skin in that area. It is all for beauty for those who understand that concept - balance - The "Golden Ratio" that which exists in all forms of nature. This is basic stuff. Having excess foreskin is like having a booger hanging from your nose.
5 of 6
You must take into account the visual appeal of the dick when considering circumcision. In a small inpromptu survey 5 of 6 girls said they had rather have a good-looking dick instead of a big one. So good-looking dicks take precedence. Any woman that does not like good-looking dicks over any other issues (about dicks) is obviously mentally ill and her opinion does not count. All you need is a good-looking dick plus being a nice sensitive cool person
Says YOU Soapberry
I like to consider how it feels to be rammed by
an uncut cock….it feels better...especially anally. That's my opinion! And some
men have more foreskin than others…either way pull it back and they all look
magnificent! MY OPINION
coincidence
That doesn't make any sense. Circumcision is nothing. You have been brain-washed by the crazies.
Ms. Chaotic
You have no clue about cool it seems. Like I said this is basic stuff you should be up to speed on this. NO they do not look magnificent. They look deformed. I think this was started by a bunch of gay guys back in the 80's. Fuckin' whiners. That is why they started having circumcision in the first place for visionary coolness.
Bogus
That is bogus.
some mouth Chaotic
You got some mouth. What kind of talk is that - "rammed by an uncut cock." You need to repent and save youself. Where is your couth? Get a grip!
That's what they say
"You got some mouth!"
That's what they say :)
Actuallymy men use proper grammar
"You've got some mouth!"
Looks better
It does provide a benefit to a man, it makes his dick look better. Is this a hard concept for you?
How you talk!
I wish that I had my foreskin. It is a barbaric practice. I went to a bris many years ago and almost passed out. Leave the skin.
What a load
A tempest in a teapot. That what anti-circumcision is all about. Just something to bitch about. I was circumcised and I didn't feel a thing. I wouldn't want forskin on myself it doesn't look too cool. Women circumcision is just labia reduction not clitoral removal as my definition. This is basic stuff. People should know this. Too much extra labia forskin gets in the way plus it doesn't look so good. Basic stuff. We are now in the midst of the soapbox generation. "The vision is the function."
your opinion
It looks better TO YOU.
To Soapberryusa:
"Circumcision makes one's dick look better. How hard is that to understand. It has such an aesthetic balance. ... It is all for beauty for those who understand that concept - balance - The "Golden Ratio" that which exists in all forms of nature. This is basic stuff. Having excess foreskin is like having a booger hanging from your nose." - Soapberryusa
I may very well have a booger hanging from my nose, but that doesn't give you the right to reach over and pull it out for me. Thanks, but no thanks. I would have preferred to keep my booger right where it was dangling.
Congratulations on the fact that you got a choice, but just because you made the choice to get cut doesn't give you the right to enforce it on others. To be frank, no one really gives a damn whether you like the look or not. Since you're obviously a man, and clearly not gay from your various remarks, I'm not sure what really qualifies you to discuss the aesthetic looks of other mens penises.
But hey! I was cut against my will as an infant child. Maybe since you like the look of my penis so much, you wouldn't mind stroking it a bit or putting it in your mouth? It follows the Golden Ratio, after all, and this seems very important to you.
...or perhaps, you're pro-circumcision stance is merely your attempt to justify your choice to both yourself and others? Either way, it doesn't really matter. If it isn't your penis, it isn't your choice.
Bogus
The slant against circumcision is bogus. Doesn't make any sense. Much to do about nothing. And too as much as women are into VANITY you would think they would prefer a circumcised penis considering it looks much better but then again it never has been established that women are profound or without the vagaries and vicissitudes of illogic. But then again, usually at some point in a woman’s life when she finds a pit she jumps in. And on it goes.
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Sat, you are unbelievable! A
Sat, you are unbelievable! A circumcised penis is no more appealing than an uncircumsiced one. It's just one of those ideals that have been cemented due to tradition. And it's time we reversed that tradition. When more people chose not to circumcise their babies, preferences will start to change.
And Soapberryusa... I'm sad it has to be pointed out, but looks don't go before removing extremely sensitive, sexually significant as well as protective tissue.
And a woman who doesn't like a "good looking dick" is mentally ill?? So if I like a natural, unmutilated penis i have a mental illness? Not only does such an accusation have no basis in reality, but it is highly offensive!
And no, one doesn't have to have a "good looking" penis. One can be very loved and desired regardless.
I believe you suffer from what I like to call MTV brain death. Grow up.
I was circumcised and I wish I wasn't
I wish I had the choice.
Our child
We did not want our boy circumcised. At the hospital we were asked a grand total of five times "Did you want us to perform the circumcision?". It was maddening. We had to say no five times.
Clearly, the doctor actually makes good coin doing circumcisions, and regrets the lost income.
So, its NOT about health/hygiene/body issues or whatever else crap they want to tell you.
When the boy had some pain because he got too much soap under the hood, we took him to the GP. Again, they argued the advantages of circumcision. Its like you're dealing with robots.
leave the lads intact
Kudos to DanielWidders and his son's mother for sticking to their guns and principles against the medical establishment.
Bottom line is, that no one, not even parents, have the right to make a body modification decision for someone else.
*************
In reading through the posts here, someone who has been totally brainwashed by the medical community, has made that old worn out statement that circ helps prevent the spread of HIV/Aids.
Using the premise that the cock-head covered by it's natural foreskin is a breeding ground for bugs. Warm, moist, etc., etc.
Well, excuse me all to hell, but every vulva I've seen, (and there have been a few), have a whole lot more surface area which is likewise warm and moist, than any penis has.
When is the money-hungry warped medical community going to stop blaming peni for the spread of STDs, as an excuse to circumcise.
The reasons we are given to promote circumcision are phallus-ies.
Tim in Idaho
I saw it when I was young...
When I was a teenager, some 25 years ago, there was some talk show that was discussing circumcision and the fact that it was unnecessary. The show then broadcast a video of a circumcision procedure. I am not a squeamish person, but I nearly threw up.
The guests on the show (a medical doctor and a nurse) proceeded to quote statistics about children losing penises and even dieing from this horrible practice every year in the U.S.
The nurse was crusading to get this practice stopped by traveling around the country and showing the video.
Flash forward some 10 years and I had my first child, a boy, and when the doctor asked about a circumcision, I answered that my son would go through life with all of his parts, that I saw no reason to have him mutilated for the sake of penile fashion. The doctor then surprised me by saying, "Oh good! I hate doing that procedure."
Why on Earth would a doctor not advise against this horrible procedure?
I think that every parent should have to watch a video of a circumcision and be told the statistics before they are able to sign the consent. That way they can be truly informed.
I will never forget that poor baby's cries... But it saved my son!
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