A Discussion On Curves With My Lover Olivia

This is taken from a chat between Olivia and me, whom I've blogged on many times in the past and will once again tomorrow, discussing our thoughts and theories on the subtlties surrounding why there's the struggle our culture and the world has with women with hourglass figures and curves, particularly big butt and little waist, big breasts as well. Some stuff here I haven't seen written anywhere else.

me: longkiss
 
Olivia: Babe!
 
me: :D
 
Olivia: Come over and make me come, dammit
 
I'm in bed :)
 
me: ohhhhh fuck that's an amazing text
 
sounds like something id think and not say

Olivia: I wanna undress you like I always do and guide your face to my pussy
 
me: nice line! mmm...

i wanna keep tongue spinning while long-faux-cock churns down deep in your cunt.

Olivia: fuuuuuuuuck
 
I keep playing with the butterfly and it makes me randy for you.

me: good...
  
lmk when you have time for supah-hot dalliance
 
Olivia: lol
 
me: and, can you believe Nike made an ad like this?
 
Olivia: supah-hot dalliance? so poetic at 8:30 AM

me: im telling you, there's a conspiracy against big hot ass
 
everytime i read about big ass, the woman with it is defending hers. Kim Kardashian, etc.
 
gonna blog on that

i think why that is it's a multi-layered web of reasons why.
 
Olivia: Well there's so many stigmas associated with a big ass
 
and it's hard for women to embrace it, even when they like it, because you NEVER see it

so it doesn't make them feel validated
 
I feel that way sometimes...
 
I love my body...but I do have a love/hate relationship with my ass sometimes

First and foremost, because NO ONE makes clothes that fit me
 
although that's starting to change slowly

me: i think on one level, it is a greater sexual image than big breasts for men. on a primal level. the little waist big butt ratio. and that's been proven in anthro studies. I think it's possible that women who dont have them, on a strictly mate attraction level of competition, envy women who do. So they attack them. "They're not hot, they're fat." etc.
 
Olivia: Hmmm
 
that's interesting

me: b/c i have to wonder, why are women with little butts attacking women with curves so often?
 
why do they care?
 
That's why. And the generalized competition to be the prettiest in the room thing.
 
Olivia: I wonder why it has that effect on men? do you know? I get the breast thing being primal...but how is the ass thing primal?

me: well, science equates the two together, thoretically. That they both, when hot and round, have cleavage
 
so they mirror each other if her breast cleavage is showing
 
Olivia: oh, ok, that makes sense

 me: That's a Desmond Morris theory.

Olivia: Well I've never witnessed this butt hate from women that you speak of
 
me: and breasts are not the main physical lust point of most men in most cultures. not the greatest hotspot. Across all cultures, her ass is.
 
oh i have. "her butt is soooo BIG!"
 
yadda, yadda, insert nasty comment here

Olivia: Most women don't target the ass when talking shit....if they see someone with an ass or with breasts then they just call her FAT
 
me: that's true too
 
Olivia: That's the most creative and most deadly of insults most women can come up with
 
but I've never heard a woman specifically pinpoint the ass like that.
 
Just my personal experience

me: they would never say it like that
 
but that's pseudo-subconsciously why
 
because,
 
how many times have they been with their men and seen their men oggle a hourglass-bodied, vah-vah-voom woman?

Olivia: lol that's true
 
me: or oggle their hourglass-body friends while growing up?
 
there is an attention given to those women that they arent getting

and feminine ego is inward based. anything that makes attention go to another woman is jealousy time
 
basic primitive feminine ego, i mean.
 
Olivia: But interestingly enough, EVERYTHING in our society says that our bodies should be like these skinny stick women
 
EVERYTHING
 
me: which i saw another researcher out there talk about recently
 
my theory
 
Olivia: quite the conundrum

me: that's a different thing. That's fashion stuff.
 
Olivia: But we're a fashion magazine driven society, so it's more than fashion

All actress' have the same body
 
they just can't be models because they aren't tall enough
 
lol
 
me: right, and if you have an ass/boobs and an hourglass, you're a porn star or underwear model (sometimes)
 
Olivia: exactly
 
me: I looked on the net for curvy women pics and over and over again, I see study results coming back saying the majority of men prefer curves and sizes larger than 10.

Another thing. If people say I'm wrong about curvy = sex, ask a minister or priest etc to view two pictures, one with a voluptuous woman and one skinny. I wonder which one he is more interested in censoring.
 
i think also
 
Olivia: OR you're labeled as being COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR BODY or CURVY

aka FAT
 
Olivia: It's fucking HILARIOUS that women like the Ugly Betty Actress and Jessica Simpson and Kim Kardashian are labelled as curvy
 
Olivia: They're all tiny

me: curvy for me was always the most positive word i heard. No, curvacious.
 
curvacious was always positive.
 
curvy could be a back handed compliment
 
or a genuine one
 
Olivia: that's the most positive,but it also has a stigma, in my opinion
 
me: yeah. it means sex.

cious = delicious
 
Olivia: why the fuck do I need to describe myself like that? do skinny women desribe themselves as bony or straight?
 
wtf?
 
me: exactly
 
beanpole
 
that's the attack on no hips

that you don't have - feminine atrributes
 
Olivia: i have to say, it works on the opposite side of the spectrum too
 
me: attributes
 
Olivia: skinny women get the same shit on the other side...and people tell them they're skinny and act like it isn't insulting
 
but it is to them
 
when that's their natural body type
 
"You're so skinny! And you eat!"
 
me: that can come from people jealous of their fitness.
 
Olivia: and etc

me: or metabolism
 
Olivia: I'm not talking about fitness
 
I'm talking about skinny
 
me: ah, like bony
 
Olivia: there are shit tons of skinny people who are far from fit and eat shit
 
me: right

i also know the camera adds 10 pounds thing
 
Olivia: But yes, people associate them with being fit and healthy just because they look a certain way
 
me: there's another theory im crafting
 
on the male side
 
no man has ever mentioned this
 
that i recall

i felt it with you here and there. it just flashes for a second... and have felt it in the past

there is a moment when a feeling goes through me that says, "can you handle that ass?"
 
esp in doggy style
 
it's like, it's too good.
 
Olivia: I mean, I don't think size 6 or 8 is fat aka I dont think I'm fat, but people comment on my eating a lot..."Wow, you eat so healthy!" and etc. as if just because I have boobs and an ass that it means I don't eat healthy
 
that's fucked up
 
me: and are you able, with your dick size, hand size, body size, able to work that big round hot sex goddess ass. That’s where we get that, “Are you man enough for this?” It reminds me of what they said in the Starsky and Hutch remake: "Couldn't handle the V8..." My strong attraction for that body is way more powerful than the intimidation, and, I also have moments where, for example, I'm holding your big firm ass open for my cock, and to make you feel open and vulnerable, and it's more challenging to hold that secure than in thin women. For me the challenge is hot. Gives me an excuse to be a rougher and it won't be too much for her.

yeah i hear you
 
i have never felt that, the big ass sex goddess, superlust and momentary intimidation feeling, with a woman with a small ass.
 
i've always felt, yeah, she's smaller than me, i can dominate that little ass. So do men pick that, among other reasons like having a strong lust for girl-looking bodies, because they dont want to risk humiliation?
 
It's easier to assert fuck-aggression/dominance mid-fuck
 
so if you arent a really huge physique guy

which is what men are pressured to be, as a counterpart to women being bombshells
 
you may start feeling like you aren't man enough
 
Olivia: I agree with that....
 
me: and that her ass is proving it
 
that she needs a man bigger than you
 
Olivia: there's a guy at work....a friend of mine...he's tall and REALLY thin
so is his gf
 
but he is pretty enthralled with my body...not in a creepy way...but he's made comments about how I'm volumptious and etc and I know he's thinking...could I handle that? lol

me: so you think he's thinking that
 
Olivia: I know he's thinking that
 
 
Olivia: And you know me well enough to know that I don't think every guy I meet is obsessed with me

me: yeah
 
Olivia: But I feel the energy
 
He's not inappropriate or anything or even flirty
 
but I just sense it

me: yup. That's when you get into the major sexual gender roles. big muslces, 7 foot guy, big ass on her, little waist, flat stomach, big breasts, big long cock on him, all that stuff
 
so what happens when someone, female or male, doesnt have that?

that idealized sexual scenario? (we see it played out in comic books and video games all the time)
 
Olivia: some people really work it out
 
but some people can't
 
I don't have a preference for height

in the opposite sex
 
but I have to say my first thought with a really slender guy would be that I would break him
 
and that's just me being honest
 
I don't think that's true
 
but it's my first instinct

me: yeah. not that you would do anything to do that, but, yeah.

Olivia: okay...i need to get going....but I still wish you were in bed with me right now
 
me: me too. so I can own that perfect built for sex ass
 
Olivia: :) kisses

me: :) kisses back. back to the bench to create more ownage potential ;)
 
Olivia: have a good day
 
xoxo
 
me: you too, baby xoxoxox

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