Why is a Gold Tablet Story Any More Nuts Than a Stone Tablet Story?

Sat, 01/28/2012 - 09:44
Submitted by Edgerman58

As I was reading the newspaper this morning, there was yet another article regarding Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich, and their quests to replace (read "save" America from the evil black man in the White House) President Obama. Etcetera, etcetera. Ad nauseum.

As I was reading this, my wife and I were making comments about each man's professed religious convictions, and I made the comment that even with Newt's "open-marriage" issues hovering around him (as he studiously ignores it), the Religious (evangelical) Right may not exactly like him, and would prefer he was someone more honorable, more "Christ-like" in his past personal life, still, for them he is much preferable to Mitt Romney. Why is that? Romney is (gasp!) a MORMON!!!! (Oh! My! God!)

Think about that a moment. Here's this guy who was brought up a Mormon, who believes (among other things) that the founder of his religion, Joseph Smith, a previously convicted scam-artist in New York state (and you can look up the records for yourself if want to do so, by the way), was given a series of golden plates, by a never-before-heard-of "angel", named Moroni, on which was engraved a newer, and better, revelation from God, and that this book (the Book of Mormon, and later The Doctrines and Covenants) superseded all past revelations.

That's a simplified picture, I know. However, as my wife remarked, how is that claim any more weird, or bizarre, than the one in the Bible with Moses and his stone tablets?! (Okay, so the Mormon God did the God of the Old Testament one better by writing His revelation on gold instead of stone, I give you that. Fine. You got me there.)

The question is: Why is the gold tablet story (or hoax, as it clearly was) any more, well, (sorry) NUTS, than the older story? Just because the one about a stone tablet is far older, that's what makes it more respectable? The stone tablet story has been around for over 2000 years. The gold tablet story has been around for less than 200 years. Hmmm.

So, using that same sort of logic, will Scientology, for example, become respectable and venerable, and more acceptable to a larger group of people in the years to come just by the fact of it's AGE? That certainly seems to be true for Christianity, and Islam (both of which plagiarized the Jewish scriptures in their day of formation, just as Joseph Smith did with the Bible and the Koran as he was making up Mormonism).

Come on, now. Let's be honest here, shall we? The evangelical Christian fundamentalists, who are striving so hard to sweep away our secular foundations, have no basis to throw stones at Mitt Romney's Mormonism. None, whatsoever. When you step back and look at the larger picture for even a moment, it's clearly a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Neither has any credibility for doing that.

By the way, even though I have no intention of voting for Mitt Romney, he's seems like a much nicer person (even morally so) than Newt Gingrich. I wouldn't want either setting in the White House, mind you, but Romney would be (I hope) the lesser of two evils. Gingrich is such a creep. Clearly, and demonstrably creepy. He's just the sort of person (you would think) most truly religious people would recoil from! Yet, the rigid, arid, 2000 year old dead ideology that is driving the Im- moral Minority (who they like to refer to as the "Moral Majority") over-looks this fact. They have to over-look it.

They are trying to over-throw our secular-based government, and they won't be able to do that unless they resort to the only thing that is left to them, which is lies, and dirty tricks (even murder). Gingrich is a creep, but, he recently accepted Christ as his "personal Lord and Savior." So, for evangelicals, all is forgiven. What appalling hypocrisy. What will full blindness. That's what an un-thinking adherence to an Ideology will do to you, though. We saw that with die-hard Communists, and now we see their Christian cousins doing exactly the same thing today. What an irony.

We who care about our country, and it's secular underpinnings (and the most precious part being the separation of church and state!), have to speak up, loudly, proudly, and every day in defense of it. It's vitally important that we turn the spotlight of reason on religion. After all, religion has become a cancer. If left unchecked, it will only spread and metastasize into something even more horrible than it is already.

We have to keep the light of reason focused on religion, because reason is bug-spray to faith. We have to remember that. I think that Americans can be very pragmatic, and once they see how baseless religion really is, they will scorn these religious nutters that currently bedevil our country. I don't think that will be something that occurs any time soon, though. This is going to be a long fight. We cannot give-up. Reason will win-out, in time.

One more thing--- I saw a bumper-sticker a few years back that said: "Jesus Loves You. The Rest Of Us Think You're An Ass-hole." Someone send that to Newt Gingrich. Please.

PS. It just occurred to me, that if Newt Gingrich does win the Republican nomination for President, that says a lot about the moral turpitude of the so-called "Moral Majority," doesn't it? 30 million Americans claim to be evangelical Christians. So be it. Maybe that's true. Fine. However, that's actually a fairly small amount when compared to the 300 million, or so, of the rest of us Americans. I find this comforting. The Immoral Minority is running scared. I think they certainly should be.

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Long ago the camp fire tales

Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:42

Long ago the camp fire tales that were true had much more impact (as they do now) so they were told as true by elders who were pretty much your only source of information. Contrast that with today where everyone can read and publish on the net too. I can't see todays 14 year olds beleiving bullshit when the net has tested their bullshit detectors so thouroughly.

Republitards in office spell death to the USA more meanigfully than any angry chant. Their cynical manipulation, poor quality thinking, and hatefulness are appalling. People who are simply conservative (as aposed to out the window batshit crazy) must despair as they have no-one to vote for. 

Batshit Crazy Republiucans

Sun, 02/05/2012 - 18:51

Thanks, Jake, for your reply. I have worried lately about these people, and I have strayed a little from my orginal topis regarding sex. I guess I just feel that our sexual freedoms are being impinged upon by these very well-oraganized Right Wingers. Sex is a lot more fun to talk about that politics, but, sometimes, we have to take of other matters first. I really don't like political discussions. They can be so very depressing! Any way-- thanks for your reply. Take care.
Edgerman58

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