Every morning when I first get up, I immediately go to the computer and bring up our website. Each time, I'm utterly amazed at the speed and ease of the internet. Thanks to Ted Nelson, the brilliant creator of this medium, I am instantly in touch with the whole wide world. Maybe it's my age, but I never cease to marvel at the potential of this kind of communication.

Today, I accidentally ended up on a page that had viewer responses to my article on male circumcision. As I reread them, I again realized how many thoughtful people had shared their ideas and feelings on the subject, including a few men who called me out on some of my statements. And get this, I agree with what many of my critics said. Yes, I made some brash statements with no data to back them up but I wrote that essay after I'd just watched the video clip showing a baby being circumcised. It actually sickened me as I observed this infants suffering while two adult males, one a doctor and the other his father, simply stood by and allowed this to happen to a helpless baby that was put into restraints. Still in an emotional state, I typed out my response to this unnecessary procedure.

Okay, I'll admit I got carried away with several statements about cut men hating women and how circumcision made men more willing to go to war, and claiming it was the cause of all the "hard fucks" in the world. Another blunder was calling African tribes "primitive," especially after living through the Bush/Cheney years which surpassed all of man's inhumanity to man with their penchant for torture. (I still say those missing tapes are Cheney's preferred porn. One look at his face tells me he's a practicing sadist).

To further explain my emotional outburst, I primarily learn through my eyes. That explains why I was so drawn to art. My background was the study of drawing and painting the nude with five years of the best schooling available in New York and Paris. I am not an academic so I have never crunched numbers nor am I a diligent reader or researcher. This has advantages as well as disadvantages. However, I believe many of Wilhelm Reich's ideas made sense. One that stayed with me was how the physical body retained the memory of pain as well as pleasure.

My PhD in sexology from the Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality was primarily based on my unique field work. I'd logged in twenty years of running masturbation workshops with women and documenting my observations about female masturbation with a book, videos and numerous articles written on the subject. When it comes to partnersex, my knowledge again comes from actual sexual experience thanks to America's sexual revolutions of the sixties and seventies. Yes, I've read some of the important books written about sex, but as I'm somewhat dyslexic, it's difficult for me to retain information. However, once I've seen it, I've got it for good.

The responses to my essay on male circumcision were very exciting and I learned from it. I want to thank all of you who posted your opinions. I only wish you were not all anonymous as several begged a reply. Others I would love to correspond with, especially the man who had only one sex partner, his wife. From what he wrote, I believe they have a divine sex life. It's moments like this when I read or see something that blasts through all my conceived ideas or theories. I'm humbled by all of your thoughtful responses.

 

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from our member Joelface

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Betty,

I am glad to hear you are thinking of this topic again. Your re-assessment of your claims about the psychological and psyiological effects of circumcision was very encouraging to hear. I agree with you in your latest conclusion, that it was perhaps simply being carried away that led you to make the claims about circumcision resulting in aggressive behavior and war, namely the somewhat offensive comment about muslims, and the primitive comment about Africans.

I know you to be a caring soul who believes everyone deserves equal respect, so I knew you had simply let your emotional feelings on this topic get the best of you at the time. I am glad you have taken the time to re-evaluate those views though. However, I do believe MUCH of your original article was RIGHT on the mark. I think it is SO important that you fight for this cause, its an ethical dilemma in OUR country that goes on every day... the most common surgery in the USA! We know better than this. It is not a medically necessary procedure, and parents do this to their children for unjustified reasosn - generally because they are uneducated on just how useful, and functional the foreskin is, and because of the astounding number of myths that exist regarding the foreskin. Baby Genitals need protecting!

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23 - M - Critical Relativist and Feminist (Equalist) - Canada

circumcised

might's picture

Betty,

I haven't been a member of this site for very long but I did make a point of reading your views on circumcision. I'd like to start by first saying I am circumcised. I'd also like to say that I wouldn't mind restoring my foreskin if it ment more pleasure for my paretner.If I could even have been fully intact that'd be fine with me too. Even with that said I'd like to point out that as a lover, I am passionate, slow, tender, and very loving. I love the female body and women too. Any trust issues I have with them are from having my heart broken in past relationships. I don't remember my circumcision fortunately. I'm glad that you retracted many of your statements because I don't think it's easy to represent the majority of circumcised men through even your own personal experiance no matter how numerous they are. I will however concede that I wouldn't consider myself your average anything. I know that this is a website geared towards female empowerment. I agree that women should feel and be able to do whatever they want, however I think men often get thrown under the bus. Not all men are insensitive. Not all men will cheat, or have ever cheated. Not all men can't handle their emotions and therefore run away from them. I think that it's not a good idea to put those ideas out there and play it off as the norm. It detracts from your message and may turn many men off from reading the important information that this website contains. I honestly don't think that's your intent considering that you've devoted your life to helping other people find themselves and bring themselves pleasure. Pretty admirable if I say so myself. Anyway I'd like to say I agree, circumcison should not be practiced. Parents unfortunately make other choices for their children that scar them just as much, but this one can be banned and therefore eliminate just one thing on that list. I'm glad this site exists and look forward to reading many more informative and revealing articles.

Thanks,

might

I am the author of the

I am the author of the longest comment on your January article. I also believe I am the person about whom you wrote "Others I would love to correspond with, especially the man who had only one sex partner, his wife. From what he wrote, I believe they have a divine sex life."

Thank you kindly. My wife is splendidly orgasmic, and was masturbating freely in her youth, 15+ years before she ever heard your name, from my mouth. But our life together has not been free of problems on other dimensions. Our sex life is no more than mutual masturbation, followed by vaginal in the missionary position. We now do it only in the dark. We are faithful to each other, first of all because we lack opportunities to wander off the ranch.

I wrote you a very long letter last decade. I do not recall contributing to your former web site. I have never sent you pictures.

What do we know about circumcision and male pleasure? That it takes away nerve endings. If too much is cut off, erection can be uncomfortable, even painful. That masturbation is more awkward and messier. That finger foreplay may be less pleasant for both giver and receiver. But I cannot claim that circumcision has created an epidemic of sexological problems.

What do we know about circumcision and condoms? Bugger all.

What do we know about circumcision and women's pleasure? Anecdotes that range all over the map.

Infant circumcision is a major alteration of the sexual ecology, whose long term consequences we have yet to research properly. The main reason I post on sexually oriented blogs such as this one, is to advocate for the American foreskin, the forgotten man of American sexuality, and to urge somebody, somewhere, to get some grant money and do some research.

I agree with you, but...

Joelface's picture

Anonymous,

Although I agree with you that we could do more research on this topic, I think its fairly clear already that the procedure is not necessary, as most of the population goes their entire lives just fine without having it done. It is certainly not necessary to perform it on infants, no matter what research question is asked.

As well, I really hope we can stop doing research that involves circumcising people. We know very well that it would be unethical to cut flesh from girls' gentialia to see what effects it could have, so why are men not granted the same protection?

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23 - M - Critical Relativist and Feminist (Equalist) - Canada

Dear Still Anonymous,

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Dear Still Anonymous,

Please forward your email address to the "contact us" at the bottom of the page that goes only to Carlin. That way we are the only ones to have your personal email. My interest in corresponding is understanding more about your marriage, family, profession and how we can support each other (with grants or other ways) to end circumcision and vaginal plastic surgery. Both procedures are barbaric. The first is a cruel attack on the male sex organ and the second plays off women's insecurity about the appearance of theirs.

Thanks for responding Betty

readers' reactions

When I linked your circumcision article in my blog, my readers had some great responses. If you'd like to see a couple more comments, go to http://positivelysexy.blogspot.com/2009/03/male-violence.html My response to them is here: http://positivelysexy.blogspot.com/2009/04/follow-up-to-male-violence.ht...

Also, thank you for accidentally facilitating my first "test" as a blogger. People really didn't like what I'd shared. (After reading the comments I got, my partner said I should take my picture off the blog.) I stood behind my decision, and grew a little in the process.

Here's a comment that was particularly good:

"I don't think my partner and I have an inhibited sex life because he was circumcised. Every person's sexual experiences are different. I can see how circumcision might cause a mental or physical problem in a sexual relationship, but that's still those individuals, not all people.

Also circumcision is not the only factor. Dodson talks about how she had a great uncircumcised lover...maybe he was just a great lover. Different people, different circumstance, different sexual experience.

I think that there is a better way to say that circumcision is something our society should not do without insinuating that all currently circumcised males are SOL.

For example: We don't remove an appendix or tonsils unless there is a problem, so why do we remove the foreskin? And who decides it's unnecessary anyway? I could decide the pinky toe is unnecessary, but I still want one.

As I said in my first comment, this is an intriguing idea, but the way she said it was pretty terrible. This is a type of article I would not expect to find a link to in a self-proclaimed "sex-positive" blog. I don't feel very sex-positive after questioning for the first time my wonderful sex life because someone told me over and over again that my partner was mutilated and will never be satisfied. He's never considered it that way, and neither have I. We are both very satisfied.

Even though I find this subject of whether or not we should circumcise boys very interesting, I'd rather not have read this article. There is a much better way to make this point."

I LOVE this:

Joelface's picture

"My interest in...how we can...end circumcision and vaginal plastic surgery. Both
procedures are barbaric. The first is a cruel attack on the male sex
organ and the second plays off women's insecurity about the appearance
of theirs."

Betty Dodson, you are a hero of mine.

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23 - M - Critical Relativist and Feminist (Equalist) - Canada

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